Food for thought. Do you agree to what Anwar is doing. If I vote for PKR and the PKR chap is bought over by Barisan Nasional, would I be happy with the choice I made. All these talk about cross-overs, and if it should happen, is it the electorates will or is it not; I want your votes, once elected the voter can go to hell, I am in power and choose what is best.
What Anwar is doing is for his self interest. He wants to lead the government. He would do it at any cost. But the consequences will be faced by the people. Pakatan Rakyat must show improvements in running the 5 states, they must build up confidence and may be in the next election they can tell the people we have proven our ability. No bribery and coercion please.
Tuesday, April 08, 2008
Silence is not golden
A letter to Malaysiakini by Chin Chai Ho on 08 Apr 2008
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I refer to the Malaysiakini report
Defections: Why Pakatan should wait.
Anwar Ibrahim promised the people through press conferences, ceramah and public statements when campaigning in the recent general election that he will eradicate all form of corruption when he comes into power.
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In 1994, when he was the Deputy PM to Tun Mahatir’s Government, Anwar was known to have orchestrated the cross-over by Sabah’s PBS newly elected MPs and state assembly persons to BN. He thought he was smart, although many others thought otherwise simply because this was unfair to the electorate in Sabah.
In the past weeks Anwar again revealed his true-self when he admitted that he was indeed negotiating with BN newly elected MP’s with the obvious subject of ‘cross-over’ to his camp.
In his manifesto for the recent election, he proclaimed to all and sundry that when he comes into power, his top priority is to eradicate corruption but even before the new parliament is convened he was already up to his old self – offering BN MPs material gain for them to cross-over to his camp.
Of course, he denied that there discussions on any ‘trading’ in his talks on the cross-overs but surely they cannot be talking and negotiating the price of Dayak or Iban hats – please Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim don’t belittle our intelligence.
The fact that he has admitted negotiating with the newly elected MPs to cross-over itself shows he would not hesitate to betray the electorate to serve his selfish ends. Such a corrupt practice is the highest form of corruption and stinks to the highest heaven.
It would be interesting for Anwar Ibrahim to explain that despite his promise of clean government, he is now resorting to unethical and immoral ways to get the very people he condemned and accused of corruption to join him.
For goodness sake give us a break. Surely the people can see his true intention. All he wants is the prime minister-ship and the power that goes with it.
Why are all the leaders of the BN component parties (except for the prime minister) suddenly so quiet to such a happening? Have all of them been so badly beaten that they have lost their voice even over such a serious matter?
To quote Martin Luther King Jr: ‘Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter’. Speak up and tell the people! Your country expects all of you to do your duty.********
kaytee has done his wee bit!
posted by KTemoc at 6:55 PM
13 Comments:
Anonymous said…
- Wah, how many post already on this subject? But I agree lah. I have also written to PKR advisor.
Y1- 7:35 PM, April 08, 2008
malayamuda said…
people are not happy with the racist stand of the BN.
Now with the internal fighting btwn UMNO and component parties, more poeple will be cheesed off.
UMNO call for Badawi’s resignation, MCA calling for Ong brothers resignation and MIC calling for Samy’s resignation.
Principled BN MP may not be too happy and decide to switch. Besides UMNO doesnt seem to have learnt any lesson from their debacle. Heard about how they have banned priests and temple musicians from India from working here ? Heard how they are planning to sabotage tourism in opposition controlled states just because UMNO fellows cant make money in the name of tourism ?
So shud we wait till 2012 to correct the system ?7:51 PM, April 08, 2008 Anonymous said…
SIAMESE TWINS? LIKE SONIA GANDHI, LIKE ANWAR IBRAHIM!
http://www.malaysia-today.net/2008/content/view/5706/84/8:28 PM, April 08, 2008 Anonymous said…
Not everyone who writes to Malaysiakini using PR names and purports to talk on behalf of the people is a PR member or smypathiser just like you can’t teach anyone a point in morality. UMNO members write up to buy more time as they strategise and make their moves. 8:30 PM, April 08, 2008 Anonymous said…
SIAMESE TWINS? LIKE SONIA GANDHI, LIKE ANWAR IBRAHIM!
“Dear SYXL, jangan cakap besar sangat lah. Baru menang 5 negeri dah nak cakap besar. Do you know all the states have no money and Umno can kill the opposition easily like it did Terengganu in 2000 which resulted in the state going back to Umno? When everything grinds to a halt let us see if the voters still want the present government or they go back to BN. Even if investors want to go to the states they still need federal government approval. Cut out your arrogance, all of you. The states are living on borrowed time, as is the entire country. Sure, semangat tinggi. But when the pockets are empty the semangat disappears very fast. Economy not important, you say. Not from 100% of the Chinese I have spoken to. Economy is everything, they tell me. If the opposition fails to develop the states then the Chinese will swing back to BN.
Wah, kalau dengar mereka cakap bukan main gagah lagi. Come back in
five years and let’s see whether you still gagah after being out of work and have no home or car.
What’s wrong with humility, even more so if we imagine we have won? But we really never won you know. We are still an opposition. And if you think the voters will stick with us never mind what happens to them, then you all have a lot of growing up to do.
Let me explain our problem in three simple words. Money, money,
money. And that is exactly what we don’t have. Chinese are the most capitalistic people in this world. I have absolutely zero confidence that the Chinese will stick with the opposition when the pockets run dry.”
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“Phew….okay, you all win. I admit defeat. I abandon the idea of a unity government and delete the concept of make peace with the vanquished. Anyway, just for your information, if the GE were to be held again, today, the 82 Parliament seats would drop to about half that, and the five states would be reduced to two at the most.
You see, many who voted for the opposition, in particular the Umno Malays, just wanted to cast protest votes to send a message to Umno-BN. They really did not think that the result would be the loss of the two-thirds majority in Parliament plus five states (in particular Penang, Perak and Selangor).
Now they regret doing so. They just wanted to give Umno-BN a slap, not lob the head off the shoulders. Imagine their shock when they discovered they overdid things and instead of just a slap they ended up cracking the skull.
But now that it has been done, it can’t be undone until the next election. But if they find that voting for the opposition was not so bad after all, then they might say, what the hell, and do it again. But if they feel threatened, then rest assured they will swing back to Umno-BN.
We have to be very careful what we do from hereon. Yes, WE, and I mean WE the opposition supporters, voted opposition because of the Umno-BN arrogance. The Umno Malays however did not vote opposition for that same reason. But if we display arrogance as well, then we shall frighten the shit out of the protest voters who did not really want to kill Umno but just teach it a lesson.
Vengeance should be the last thing on our agenda. We are not that strong yet to afford the luxury of being arrogant. Punishing corrupt officials of the past regime is another thing though. Even Umno people would support that. But screaming about an agenda of killing off Umno would undo all that we have gained on 8 March 2008.
No, I do not believe that the opposition will do better the next election, at least going by today’s sentiments. My worry is that the opposition would not even be able to maintain what it has won thus far and will instead see a slide. And whether we see it slide, maintained, or increased, will all depend on how we conduct ourselves. Our performance, and only that, will decide where the opposition goes from here. “
- Comments by YM RPK in his article, “Like Siamese Twins”
As most readers of MT would know by now, the gist of YM RPK’s article was that he proposed, in essence, that Pakatan form a Unity Government alongside with UMNO. Judging from the many reactions in the comments section, I can wholeheartedly say most, if not all of the MT readers (who also happen to be concerned voters themselves) REJECT and ABHOR such a concept. Moi included.
But, unfortunately, as YM RPK adroitly pointed out (or implied), many of us are still in Cloud Nine and not realizing that control of Federal Government funding apparatus and, more importantly, PETRONAS, still lies in the hands of UMNO.
As we have seen in the recent days, steps are now being taken by the UMNO Federal Government to channel as much as possible money that is DUE TO THE PAKATAN STATE GOVERNMENTS via other dubious means, Do not be fooled by Pak Lah’s Mr. Nice Guy exterior. He is as every bit the Crocodile Dr. M was, and knows that if Saudara Anwar takes over as PM, his S-I-L will end up in a zoo.
Now that we know the Mongolian Yak who has been designated King-In-Waiting, it is ever more urgent for Pakatan Rakyat to persuade MPs from East Malaysia to team-up with them to form the next government. Let us DENY the Yak the pleasure of a PM pension and his face from gracing the pages of our history books, yes? It will also keep his grubby hands from PETRONAS money, which would most likely, in any events, end up with Messrs. Alfred Dunhill or Messrs. Louis Vuitton.
So, to the Readers of MT and supporters of Pakatan. Keep your feet on the ground. Make no mistakes. This is all about WHO GET WHAT, WHEN, AND WHERE. YM RPK has repeatedly pointed out this fact, but very few seem to have taken it to heart. And right now, the strangulation of Pakatan State Governments has just begun. No Money, No Talk. And when you can Walk the Talk, you are going to get VOTED OUT.
As we have also seen, Pakatan’s coalition is also on slightly shaky grounds. DAP, who harbour nonsensical dreams of being KINGS, fail to realise that demographics are against them, and that being KINGMAKERS is more rewarding. Finance Minister, anyone?
PAS, who also dream a strange dream of Islamic State (whatever that is), knows that upholding Justice and eradicating Corruption is called for in Islam. If that is not an Islamic State in action, I don’t know what is. Nobody loses, right?
PKR, who dreams a wet dream of forming the Federal Government, may or may not be boasting when they claim to have 30 BN defectors at hand. A beautiful wet dream, for sure, but are you wooing the Right Brides and can you actually consummate the marriage in time?
Remember, allies are vulnerable when joined at the flanks during the heat of combat. Alliances can be undone by petty issues and grievances. DO NOT TAKE matters raised by Utusan Dayus or TV3 Suku as Truth itself. Clarify first, fire later. 8 March 2008 is your D-DAY as was on 6 June 1944 in the beaches of France. The question is: will it end up as a VJ DAY Parade OR a humiliating Dunkirk?
Finally, a message for Saudara Anwar. Please do not wait six months for a by-election in order to contest for a Parliament seat. You have 82 wise guys (and gals) in Parliament. If your boast of 30 BN defectors is true, why wait for six more torturous months? Datin Seri Azizah makes a fine PM. Remember Sonia Gandhi? Everyone in Congress wanted her to be India’s PM, but she declined in favour of Manmohan Singh. Yet, many visiting Head of Governments pay her a courtesy call when visiting India.
DO YOU TRULY WANT TO UPHOLD JUSTICE and ERADICATE CORRUPTION as you claim?
DO YOU TRULY WANT TO SEE MBs NIZAR, LGE, and KHALED be a model of a fair and transparent governance for all to see?
Then, please, Saudara Anwar, CARPE DIEM! Remember, you can always take your time to contest after the fact and assume the mantle of leadership. BUT NOT BEFORE, IN MY HUMBLE OPINION.
Return PETRONAS back to the hand of the Rakyat (and from the hands of UMNO) and go down in history books as Malaysia’s most outstanding and dedicated Statesman.
And PLEASE, make Dr. M look like a schoolyard bully in comparison.
By Robin Goodfellow
http://www.malaysia-today.net/2008/content/view/5706/84/8:33 PM, April 08, 2008 Anonymous said…
In your desperate attempt to smear someone for your nefarious and infantile project, you try to copy and paste the works of anyone who may be at least close to what you would have said. Have you ever asked yourself, how many people disagree with that? If someone is against defecting, how many want that to happen and how many write about it? You are cheap and sleazy. Burying your head in the sand. No wonder your dignity is non-exsistent. I thought pigs have that tendencies of… 8:36 PM, April 08, 2008 Anonymous said…
“So shud we wait till 2012 to correct the system?”
BN won with definite majority and Pak Lah maybe weak and need to be replaced, but that doesn’t mean that the whole UMNO machinery lack of leaders. They are few reasonable leaders. Let’s see what happen in UMNO AGM. PR must prove that they are able to run the country. So, start with the five states. Rakyat will patiently wait and observe their merits (or demerits).
UMNO is known devil, and been around since. Their damage is predictable but our new ‘heroes’ are yet to be seen. And our brethrens from PKR only have bad records to show in the past and yet to demonstrate anything real and beyond opportunistic politics.8:40 PM, April 08, 2008 Anonymous said…
For many silent malaysia, a vote for PR is actually a protest vote for BN. People want BN to be reformed. And the best way of conveying this is through the general election.
But matter seems to take a life of its own. So, PKR stop frog hunting8:44 PM, April 08, 2008 Jay said…
We have never seen, heard of an UMNO or BN MP bought, saying he wa sbought, was to be bought or was ready to cross over. But we have Pakatan MPs and ADUNs from Selangor to Perak offered billions, one says he was to be given 65 million. If Kaytee has any decency which his myobic ilk can’t posses at any given moment, he should tell us about that. Even if the man you hate for your own reasons were an evil man, many would support him if he were to be criticised by you because they know what drives you. So never imagine that your vomit will be lauded by anyone if they don’t agree with Anwar or his party.
(Bernama) IPOH, April 8 — The Anti-Corruption Agency (ACA) and police have commenced investigations into allegations by the DAP that one of its elected representatives was offered between RM10 million and RM65 million to join the Barisan Nasional (BN).
DAP vice chairman M. Kulasegaran said he had given a statement to the ACA regarding the matter Monday.
“ACA officers came to question me after they were informed by the police about the case. I gave them my full cooperation,” he told a press conference at the Perak DAP’s office here Tuesday.
Kulasegaran said police also recorded a statement from Tronoh Assemblyman V. Sivakumar yesterday and that he (Sivakumar) would be interviewed by the ACA today.
Sivakumar lodged a police report at the Ipoh police headquarters regarding the alleged buy-over attempts yesterday.
According to him, the offer was made through telephone calls and the short-messaging-service (SMS) after the BN lost the state in the March 8 election.
When the offers became to frequent, he was stressed by it and lodged the police report.
An ACA spokesman, when contacted, declined to comment on the matter.
Another Perak DAP assemblyman, A. Sivasubramaniam (Buntong) is also due to make a police report about alleged attempts to buy him over.
“I have been receiving offer after offer through telephone calls and SMS to join the BN. I am being offered up to RM80 million to jump ship,” he said.
Sivasubramaniam said he would be making the police report at the Buntong police station Wednesday.8:49 PM, April 08, 2008 Sabahan said…
If someone has evidence however little that any BN MP or ADUN was bought, engaged to be bought, why can’t that person proceed the ACA and lodge a complaint? If you are about integrity, honesty and accountability, you need to know that it doesn’t come through prejudice, unnuendos, selective editing, selective memory and selective choice. Pakatan has challenged BN to produce evidence of anyone bought, what else do we need? If you accuse someone, then show us the evidence. Or you think you are talking to feeble minds here? Oh, I never imagined that feeble minds believe that everyone is like them. That’s legendary by the way. A blind man thinks everyone is the same. Enjoy life as the world moves on….
Hurray!8:54 PM, April 08, 2008 Anonymous said…
“What will Anwar do after April 14? Que sera sera, the man says!”
The Malaysian Insider) JAKARTA, April 8 — De facto Opposition leader Anwar Ibrahim was coy about his plans after April 14 – when he is eligible to take part in politics – repeating that his interest is in ensuring a cohesive Pakatan Rakyat and improving the economic and social conditions in the five states under his coalition.
“What do I do next on the 14th, Que Sera Sera,” Anwar told reporters in Jakarta after giving a keynote lecture in conjunction with the 100th birthday of Indonesian ulama and novelist Hamka.
Under Malaysian law, convicts cannot take part in politics for five years after their sentence ends. Anwar was sentenced to six years’ jail for corruption on April 14, 1999 but served two-third due to good behaviour with the sentence ending April 14 2003. He was released from jail September 2, 2004 after he won an appeal against a sodomy conviction.
“But of course I look forward to… after all it is a decision by a corrupt court, a compliant court under the instructions of Mahathir. I don’t give a damn what they say,” he said.
He also disclosed that the pact had not decided whether to propose a motion of no confidence against Prime Minister Abdullah Ahmad Badawi when Parliament convenes on April 28, 2008.
“We have made no decision on whether we want to propose a special resolution or motion of no confidence. We are more interested in governing the five states in a fair and transparent manner for all races.”
However, he cast doubts that Abdullah can last long as a prime minister.
“Now what Abdullah said that he is the prime minister and Anwar is the prime minister-in-waiting, that is his view. I hope he can still be prime minister for some time,” said Anwar, who was clad in a suit with a red checked tie.
He dismissed Abdullah’s remarks over the weekend that deputy prime minister Najib Abdul Razak would succeed as prime minister.
“He has been the anointed successor long before the Mongolian case and other controversies, it is of no consequence to us,” Anwar added.
The Opposition leader returns to Kuala Lumpur this evening from Jakarta.9:01 PM, April 08, 2008 wits0 said…
No, KayTee, Silence is not Golden but then, neither is mere selective ranting and venting. 9:03 PM, April 08, 2008 kl said…
I think i agree with the robin goodfellow article, in another 5 years, the PR will lose. Which makes it more imperative that PR get control of the govt now and not in 2012,…
In a David vs Goliath fight, no one faults David for using every means at his disposal to win.
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I believe PR should not wait for the next GE. By that time BN would have destroyed the country. The hole in my pocket is getting bigger, another 5 yrs of BN may finish off many of us. PR should take over, but no buying pleaseeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!. Anyone who wants to come over should come over with clean hands and declare assets. No curruption please. The rakyat are tired of it. Follow People’s Declaration. The elected MPs have to work for the people. Always, always remember we put you there, so you owe it to us. Be humble. On this note I feel that titles bestowed during rulers’ birthdays should be done away with. It creates arrogance. I am not amused to see names like” Johari bin Datuk Mohamed” being used officially even on birth certs. How come then a son or daughter of a doctor does not become” Johari bin Dr. Mohamed”. What happens if the sultan decides to remove the title? It has happened.
I think Pakatan Rakyat should go for it. Reforms cant wait till 2012. Despite losing the 12 GE the BN doesnt seem to be in the mood for change.
They just have beautiful slogans about reforms but on the ground nothing is happening just like ” Islam Hadhari” , the numerous ” Koridors “, Work woth me not for me “, ” I am the Prime Minister for ALL Malaysians “. So the same goes for reforms.
And with all then infighting in practically EVERY BN component party it’s time we give them some time off to settle their woes. With woes of their own do you think they will manage the country well. Each one is calling the other to resign.
If principled BN MP’s want to defect for the better of Malaysia, they should be welcomed.
I hope Anwar can muster support and form the Federal Government. Then maybe we could sign new MOU’s for Tourism in the other 7 states ? What say you guys ?
KTemoc had this anti Anwar feel running in him all along.
I am not an Anwar supporter per se.
But let put forward my argument. First and formost Barisan lost the election- the opposition won by total vote count. In many constituencies Barisan won by adding in the suspicious postal votes. On a random verification, postal voters were found to have dual votes- one as civilians as they are now and one as when they were in the forces- still maintained for Malay Supremacy (Ketuanan Melayu) according to the Election chief.
According to Anwar Ibrahim- in Titiwangsa FT Minister lost but 14000 postal votes were added in for him to win.
Under the circumstances, before Barisan headed by it’s decadent UMNO plans more worst eletion frauds- Anwar should reign in the opposition MPs- not through corrupt practices but by ethical means and form the Govt.
They the ruling BN is not even releasing Hindraf 5 (H5)- though the people had voted one as their MP. Where is democracy? They would probably released just before the next election. Only an alternative govt. would release them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The electoral roll should be cleaned up, constituencies should be properly delineated, ISA-OSA-Printing Presses & Pub Acts should all be abolished.
Can we afford to let BN rule another term? I don’t think so. Strike when the iron is hot.
By the look of what is happening now, Its seems Bn is still not rependent of their bad doings and is threatening PR using various tactics like Federal this, Federal that. Will you be able to tahan all this nonsense?
We thought BN will wake up and serve the raykayt with guts and with fairness but look what they are trying to do?
There is no other way but to get 30+BN MPs to cross over and be the new Govt of change and prove once and for all that PR can Govern with all fairness.
Isnt that better rather to suffer for another 5 years and BN ugut the 5 PR state rakyat?
Bravo Ktee.. DSAI WILL BE THE NEXT PM!! you have just affirmed your hatred towards the man and like I tell you before, the more you hate him, the more you will have him. HA ha ha..
Anwarista? Call me what you want.. So long as I know there is so much love in me instead of hatred, that’s all that matters.
Hey Ktee, instead of harbouring your hatred for DSAI, plant some seed of love by loving yourself first. I feel pity and sorry for you for having so much of hatred in your heart. How sad…
Back to the Topic, as much as I reject the Jumping Frog idea, but I believe that the time is now, after what stupid and brainless Azalina and Johari Baharum discrimatining actions towards the PR states. They stink to the seventh heaven. Orang Melayu kata dengki, hati busuk. Let’s send them another Tsunami now instead of waiting another 4-5 years when all our money would gone.
Hi sikembangcina,
My main argument is I fear the voters are cheated. If we move along this trend, what happens if the people want change, and the Pakatan Rakyat does not perform At least as some body mentioned give them a 100 days and see what happens. They may not move a mountain but at least if they visit the mountain and say this is the one that has got to be moved, agreed we are going along the right direction.
I advocate this slow and steady thingy, because anything done in haste may not the desired results.
Hi chanjoe.
See my earlier reply. I am sure PR will have their way in dealing with the issue of interference by the Federal Government. I agree to a change but don’t the PR don’t perform. Only results can convince us.
I simply cannot understand how anybody can live with the nightmare of another four or five years of BN misgovernment. Nobody likes the idea of politicians playing musical chairs, but Mavis Putucheary pointed out that under certain circumstances it’s acceptable for entire blocs to crossover. In other words, if a large number of BN politicians have decided they have lost confidence in their party’s agenda, they are perfectly at liberty to serve the community under a different banner. In any case, it really doesn’t matter how many people still cling to the fear of radical change – change will happen anyhow, whether you like it or not! Personally I find it a lot more cheerful and exciting to embrace the change. It’s really not that difficult considering my utter contempt and disdain for the BN and every so-called leader it has produced (the only acceptable ones are those they have ejected!
New Cabinet:
Prime Minister – Anwar
Deputy Prime Minister – Lim Kit Siang
Culture Minister – Farish Noor
Defence Minister –
Education Minister – Nga Kor Ming
Environment Minister – Teresa Kok
Finance Minister – Tony Pua
Foreign Minister – Ramasamy
Health Minister -
Home Minister – Ronnie Liu
Information Minister – Jeff Ooi
Law Minister – Teng Chang Khim
Manpower Minister –
Sports Minister -
Technology Minister –
Trade Minister – Khalid
Transport Minister – Liew Chin Tong
(Penang Chief Minister – Lim Guan Eng)
Hi there Kolaar, malayamuda, lakshmi
Thanks for commenting.
It took me a whole day to think of a reply to your comments, my views were diametrically opposed to your argument that this is the right time to strike, and allow Anwar to lead. My reasoning was the voter reigns supreme and the person who was voted in is obliged to the people who put them there. Secondly, my contention is Pakatan Rakyat is still groping about and they must be given time to prove their worth, And finally my fear of Anwar. He has had a negative reaction in my mind, going back to his ABIM days and when he was even more powerful than Mahathir in certain cases. Remember Malay pronunciation and ‘baku’ which died a premature death. But the latest news flash via Malaysiakini, http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/81131
made me think differently.
Do you want Najib or Anwar. Anwar is the lesser evil. Najib is too quite for my liking – still water runs deep, and his track record of commissions, the Mongolian girl, makes me uneasy. If Badawi is forced to take leave, this may also mean he will be phased out in December, and Najib will start his reign. Between him and Anwar I go for the latter.
Hi San
Nice thought, will this happen.